In Deutschland ist alles besser (special for JackDee)

[acw]

My grandfather, a Dutch POW and not that much of a perfectionist would often say this about the Germans.

Talking about the World Cup there is one team that most likely I will bet against every single match: Holland. Their last 3 matches already clearly indicated that they are absolutely completely hopeless.

Anyhow I started gathering as many International matches as possible of the last couple of years. Not all of them were in my database yet. I did a bit of copy and pasting from the internet, imported the stuff into my database and compared it all. I am a perfectionist in this matter! Many, many mistakes on the various sites. Only one got it all right. And guess where the site is located?

 

[winbet]

I liked the way you introduced your Grandfather at the start to subtlely give more credence to your opinion of Holland. Is it too early to start giving ones view on all these teams, maybe posters from their own Countries can give an informed opinion, of course with Ireland out that means Joey Fitzpatrick will only participate as a sponge man of sorts. So we can start with a line through Holland. :drink:

 

[chriscol]

maybe it s also already time to fade england, with rooney probably out...what s left without him?? looks like they go out in the last 16 against germany.

 

[winbet]

maybe it s also already time to fade england, with rooney probably out...what s left without him?? looks like they go out in the last 16 against germany.

Heskey, Sheringham

 

[chriscol]

uppy:

Heskey, Sheringham

 

[joeyfitzclick]

Heskey, Sheringham

Possibly the funniest post I have read this year.


My paraguay shirt arrived from e bay yesterday, my GF is from Stockholm so I already had the sweden shirt, still working on obtaining a T&T shirt which is proving difficult.

Go Ireland (Euro'98) !

:thumbsup2:

 

[JackDee]

he, he...

"Many, many mistakes on the various sites. Only one got it all right. And guess where the site is located?"

Luxembourg? He,he...

I see what you mean acw, and I am looking forward to your opinions on the world cup. I d also love to be in germany, and will probably find some time to go to, but haven't made any arrangements yet, and I better hurry, because I ll probably end up goin and watching some legendary clash of ecuador vs.honduras say...

I also see where you are driving it with the germans, my beloved fades for the europian competitions, BUT, as much as I am siding with your grandad on all these, to witness them actually competing in the field is closer to some shock horror event than football.

 

[acw]

Ladbrokes has prices up! If the big books come up with the same, I will be going for it big big time!

 

[wnyx_radio]

Heskey, Sheringham

Maybe England could call up Shearer. At least, he's younger than Teddy. I would love to see what the English papers are saying about Rooney missing the WC. England fans have to be freaking out. Which is their usual reactions. :nohead:

 

[joeyfitzclick]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/

 

[winbet]

Bring on the pain you Bastards :Sad Face:

Dont forget Beckham has had Elocution lessons this time.:drink:

 

[X-Files]

Pinnacle has WC match prices up

Ladbrokes has prices up! If the big books come up with the same, I will be going for it big big time!

Pinnacle has WC match prices up, e.g.

<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width=650 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk>09:00 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>11 Serbia and Montenegro</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> +0.5 goal -110</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio value=riskType name=radio50>Risk <INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=toWinType name=radio50>To Win</TD><TD width=77><INPUT size=8 name=C5P0></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD> </TD><TD class=main_body_blk>12 Netherlands</TD><TD class=main_body_blk> -0.5 goal +102</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[JackDee]

rooney or no rooney, england are always the biggest fades in world or eupopian footie competitions, despite or maybe because of the media frenzy and all the natiolanistic pride and attention that goes along with them, big time losers imo. Arguably they have a strong team this year, much stronger than previous years, but I dont see anything but another choke job, unless that is, the powers that be have a cinderella england scenario in the making for this world cup, and if this is the case, it will be a whole new ballgame.

 

[joeyfitzclick]

You are correct in saying England are the best fades (by far actually) in big competitions but the reason is very simple.

The English are a very proud nation of degenerate gamblers ! That country will bet 10-15m euros on a Chelsea v United game on a Sunday in February so imagine the frenzy of bets going on England in every match they play in. The bookies offer shit prices on England because they know they will bet on their own country regardless of price. There is as you know a direct correlation between the price offered on England (over valued for reasons mentioned above) and their opponents (under valued). Making the fade a good bet regardless of outcome.

 

[joeyfitzclick]

X files - I can't even tell you how much I love Serbia & Montenegro not only in this match at this price but for the whole competition. Easily the most under rated team in this competition. They will surprise a lot of people !

 

[joeyfitzclick]

:thumbsup2:

 

[acw]

The bookies offer shit prices on England because they know they will bet on their own country regardless of price.

Those were the (good) old days! These days the markets are dominated by the Asian bookies and (unfortunately) they do not use these practises.

X-Files,
Damn! Ladbrokes had (may still have) Holland at -3/4. This -1/2 is a move in a more realistic direction. Still I fancy the Serbs! Good old days would have been Holland -1.

 

[joeyfitzclick]

Maybe in the online world but not in the bookie shops in Ireland/England.

 

[acw]

Date HT AT HTG ATG COMP NG MHTS MHCS MATS TRES
02/09/2001 Germany England 1 5 WC 1.775 0.00 2.075 1.075
06/09/2001 England Albania 2 0 WC 2.100 3.00 1.750 0.075
06/10/2001 England Greece 2 2 WC 2.050 2.00 1.800 -0.925
10/11/2001 England Sweden 1 1 INTT 1.925 0.75 1.925 -1.925
14/02/2002 Netherlands England 1 1 INTT 1.775 0.50 2.075 -0.850
28/03/2002 England Italy 1 2 INTT 2.050 0.25 1.800 -1.850
18/04/2002 England Paraguay 4 0 INTT 1.900 0.75 1.950 -0.950
21/05/2002 Korea Republic England 1 1 INTT 1.875 -0.75 1.975 -1.950
26/05/2002 England Cameroon 2 2 INTT Y 2.025 0.25 1.825 -2.450
02/06/2002 England Sweden 1 1 WC Y 1.950 0.50 1.900 -3.450
07/06/2002 Argentina England 0 1 WC Y 1.900 0.25 1.950 -2.500
12/06/2002 England Nigeria 0 0 WC Y 1.925 1.25 1.925 -3.500
15/06/2002 England Denmark 3 0 WC Y 2.050 0.50 1.800 -2.450
21/06/2002 Brazil England 2 1 WC Y 2.050 0.25 1.800 -3.450
07/09/2002 England Portugal 1 1 INTT 1.950 0.25 1.900 -3.950
13/10/2002 Slovakia England 1 2 WC 2.000 -1.00 1.850 -3.950
17/10/2002 England Macedonia 2 2 WC 1.950 2.75 1.900 -4.950
13/02/2003 England Australia 1 3 INTT 1.950 1.00 1.900 -5.950
30/03/2003 Liechtenstein England 0 2 WC 1.850 -3.00 2.000 -6.950
03/04/2003 England Turkey 2 0 WC 1.925 0.50 1.925 -6.025
23/05/2003 South Africa England 1 2 INTT 2.000 -0.25 1.850 -5.175
04/06/2003 England Serbia and Montenegro 2 1 INTT 1.850 0.75 2.000 -4.750
12/06/2003 England Slovakia 2 1 WC 1.925 1.50 1.925 -5.750
21/08/2003 England Croatia 3 1 INTT 1.975 0.75 1.875 -4.775
07/09/2003 Macedonia England 1 2 WC 1.900 -1.25 1.950 -5.275
11/09/2003 England Liechtenstein 2 0 WC 1.950 4.00 1.900 -6.275
12/10/2003 Turkey England 0 0 WC 2.050 0.25 1.800 -5.875
16/11/2003 England Denmark 2 3 INTT 1.975 0.50 1.875 -6.875
19/02/2004 Portugal England 1 1 INTT 1.800 0.25 2.050 -6.350
01/04/2004 Sweden England 1 0 INTT 2.075 0.25 1.775 -7.350
02/06/2004 England Japan 1 1 INTT 1.825 1.00 2.025 -8.350
05/06/2004 England Iceland 6 1 INTT 1.950 1.50 1.900 -7.400
14/06/2004 France England 2 1 WC Y 1.825 0.25 2.025 -8.400
17/06/2004 England Switzerland 3 0 WC Y 1.850 1.00 2.000 -7.550
22/06/2004 England Croatia 4 2 WC Y 2.050 0.50 1.800 -6.500
25/06/2004 Portugal England 1 1 WC 1.950 0.00 1.900 -6.500
19/08/2004 England Ukraine 3 0 INTT 2.000 1.00 1.850 -5.500
05/09/2004 Austria England 2 2 WC 1.825 -1.00 2.025 -6.500
09/09/2004 Poland England 1 2 WC 2.025 -0.50 1.825 -5.675
09/10/2004 England Wales 2 0 WC 1.825 1.25 2.025 -4.850
14/10/2004 Azerbaijan England 0 1 WC 2.050 -1.50 1.800 -5.850
18/11/2004 Spain England 1 0 INTT 2.050 0.25 1.800 -6.850
10/02/2005 England Netherlands 0 0 INTT 1.900 0.25 1.950 -7.350
26/03/2005 England Northern Ireland 4 0 WC 1.800 2.00 2.050 -6.550
29/05/2005 USA England 1 2 INTT 1.850 0.00 2.000 -5.550
18/08/2005 Denmark England 4 1 INTT 1.925 -0.25 1.925 -6.550
03/09/2005 Wales England 0 1 OTH 1.775 -1.50 2.075 -7.550
08/09/2005 Northern Ireland England 1 0 OTH 1.800 -2.00 2.050 -8.550
08/10/2005 England Austria 1 0 OTH 2.025 1.75 1.825 -9.550
13/10/2005 England Poland 2 1 OTH 2.025 1.00 1.825 -9.550
13/11/2005 Argentina England 2 3 INTT Y 2.050 0.25 1.800 -8.750
02/03/2006 England Uruguay 2 1 INTT 1.875 1.00 1.925 -8.750

 

[acw]

Maybe in the online world but not in the bookie shops in Ireland/England.

I do have to admit that I never ever had a bet on England!